Comments on: ex-Jehovah’s Witnesses for Haiti http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti Life & healing after leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:38:25 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: jennifer http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti/comment-page-1#comment-1387 jennifer Wed, 31 Mar 2010 19:09:21 +0000 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/?p=896#comment-1387 After reading up on all the comments prior, and the appeal for ex-JW's to rally together for this good cause, I am left with a question that probably will never really be answered. Why is there such a need to be heard as a "former J.W.?" and who, but former J.W.'s will listen? I am a former J.W. and have no agenda to cripple the entity of the Watchtower. It is the faith that my parents taught me from my birth..I am now 46 years old and have not been affilliated and or associated with the Witness for some time(almost 9 years)During the time that I was a Witness, I was active and grateful to be a part of God's earthly organization. I got discouraged, and I started to see inconsistancies in teachings and the application of the sccriptures within the writings of the watchtower, public talks, and congregational issues that directly affected my family. Primarily things that would be considered a 'conscience' decision. As a result, I sought Jehovahs face, and prayed fervently for some light to be shed, so that I did not lose the only thing that I believed at the time that would keep my family happy and together.(We had spent nearly 15 years a a married couple raising four children to serve the only true God) and researched countless books, from Aid to bible understanding, to Insight on the scriptures, plus just reading the bible without another's interpretation. No real guidance came, and it seemed that for some reason our family was under attack. At the time, due to my conditioning as a Witness, I thought that I had found disfavor with JEhovah, and that as some implies, that GOd may have removed his spirit from me. I was distressed and emotionally inconsolable. My prayers became more lenghthy and profound as I searched for answers, I appealed to my christian Elders to pray for us, and asked for guidance, and they refused to help as I was a sister with a husband in good standing, and if he were to go to them and ask them, then they would be able to help. I was forsaken, and the only conclusion I came to was that Jehovah did not want me to be there. At the time I left I felt a great relief, I didn't hasve the weight of the obligatory behaviors and acts that would earmark one as a Christian in good standing. I went about my life peaceably, and dealt with some real issues that my husband and I had been ignoring. HE too fell away from the congreation, and later revealed to me that he'd been unfaithful to me. Our marriage ended, and we realized that our marriage was only held together because of the legalistic constraints of the faith. We parted, as amicably as possible. I have to say this about the entire awakening I had regarding the brotherhood...there is only one if you want there to be one. We did not recieve sheparding, we did not recieve any pohone calls, rumours were spread about both my ex husband and I, and about 2 years after I ceased attending the congregation meetings, and ceased association with the witneses, I was disfellowshipped as I refused a meeting with the Same Elders who refused to uplift and encourage our family. I was sent a certified letter from the Greenberg Congregation requiring me to attend a meeting with 3 elders, to which I refused via letter stating" I do not trust you ". Subsequently, the congregation overseer called me later to inform me that they decided to disfellowship me on the grounds of conduct unbecoming a christian. I ask you...who was not christian? This is not a slur against the many faithful who blindly dismiss stories like mine, I used to do the same. What this is, is a reality check...Haiti? How about home? How about giving to those in Spitritual Crisis? Where is the love for those who really need it? After reading up on all the comments prior, and the appeal for ex-JW’s to rally together for this good cause, I am left with a question that probably will never really be answered.
Why is there such a need to be heard as a “former J.W.?” and who, but former J.W.’s will listen?
I am a former J.W. and have no agenda to cripple the entity of the Watchtower. It is the faith that my parents taught me from my birth..I am now 46 years old and have not been affilliated and or associated with the Witness for some time(almost 9 years)During the time that I was a Witness, I was active and grateful to be a part of God’s earthly organization. I got discouraged, and I started to see inconsistancies in teachings and the application of the sccriptures within the writings of the watchtower, public talks, and congregational issues that directly affected my family. Primarily things that would be considered a ‘conscience’ decision. As a result, I sought Jehovahs face, and prayed fervently for some light to be shed, so that I did not lose the only thing that I believed at the time that would keep my family happy and together.(We had spent nearly 15 years a a married couple raising four children to serve the only true God) and researched countless books, from Aid to bible understanding, to Insight on the scriptures, plus just reading the bible without another’s interpretation. No real guidance came, and it seemed that for some reason our family was under attack. At the time, due to my conditioning as a Witness, I thought that I had found disfavor with JEhovah, and that as some implies, that GOd may have removed his spirit from me. I was distressed and emotionally inconsolable. My prayers became more lenghthy and profound as I searched for answers, I appealed to my christian Elders to pray for us, and asked for guidance, and they refused to help as I was a sister with a husband in good standing, and if he were to go to them and ask them, then they would be able to help. I was forsaken, and the only conclusion I came to was that Jehovah did not want me to be there.
At the time I left I felt a great relief, I didn’t hasve the weight of the obligatory behaviors and acts that would earmark one as a Christian in good standing. I went about my life peaceably, and dealt with some real issues that my husband and I had been ignoring. HE too fell away from the congreation, and later revealed to me that he’d been unfaithful to me. Our marriage ended, and we realized that our marriage was only held together because of the legalistic constraints of the faith. We parted, as amicably as possible. I have to say this about the entire awakening I had regarding the brotherhood…there is only one if you want there to be one.
We did not recieve sheparding, we did not recieve any pohone calls, rumours were spread about both my ex husband and I, and about 2 years after I ceased attending the congregation meetings, and ceased association with the witneses, I was disfellowshipped as I refused a meeting with the Same Elders who refused to uplift and encourage our family. I was sent a certified letter from the Greenberg Congregation requiring me to attend a meeting with 3 elders, to which I refused via letter stating” I do not trust you “. Subsequently, the congregation overseer called me later to inform me that they decided to disfellowship me on the grounds of conduct unbecoming a christian.
I ask you…who was not christian?
This is not a slur against the many faithful who blindly dismiss stories like mine, I used to do the same. What this is, is a reality check…Haiti? How about home? How about giving to those in Spitritual Crisis? Where is the love for those who really need it?

]]> By: wil http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti/comment-page-1#comment-1386 wil Tue, 30 Mar 2010 07:57:17 +0000 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/?p=896#comment-1386 bien dice el texto Biblico, el perro se a vuelto a tragar su mismo vomito y la cerda a banarce en su fango. es exactamente lo que te paso a ti. bien dice el texto Biblico, el perro se a vuelto a tragar su mismo vomito y la cerda a banarce en su fango. es exactamente lo que te paso a ti.

]]> By: carmelo http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti/comment-page-1#comment-1379 carmelo Sun, 14 Mar 2010 15:18:42 +0000 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/?p=896#comment-1379 The watch tower bible and tract socety are a proven false religion and cult. If any jw is honest and a true seeker of truth they will do an intense study on the history of the watch tower society beginning with the first leader Charles Taze Russell and The original International bible students till today. The problem is not proving that the watch tower society is a false prophet and cover up machine - ITS GETTING A JW TO LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF EXHAUSTIVE EVIDENCE - THATS THE PROBLEM. THEY SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THE INFO IN A RATIONAL COGNITIVE WAY WITHOUT BECOMING ANTAGONISTIC or fearfull. A great recource is the Kingdom of the Cults by Dr Walter Martin now revised by RaviZacharias. A brilliant work which includes the watchtower. Every person that has belived and all future watchtower believers will all make the same mistake and thats to test what the watchtower was teaching When Christ inspected the watch tower and gave it the thumbs up and made it the so called ONLY TRUE religious orgabisation. They will see it was impossible for Christ to approve it fallicies. IF you look for truth you will find it. You must truly know Christ not about him. All you guys who write on this site know about Christ however you don't know him. Its only by choice or revelation that you do know Him. They that TRUST in the Lord (not the watchtower) are like Mount Zion. They shall not be moved, they shall last forever. Mr Carmelo Bonanno cakes@edibleart.com.au The watch tower bible and tract socety are a proven false religion and cult.
If any jw is honest and a true seeker of truth they will do an intense study on the history of the watch tower society beginning with the first leader Charles Taze Russell and The original International bible students till today.
The problem is not proving that the watch tower society is a false prophet and cover up machine - ITS GETTING A JW TO LOOK AT THE AMOUNT OF EXHAUSTIVE EVIDENCE - THATS THE PROBLEM. THEY SIMPLY DO NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO LOOK AT THE INFO IN A RATIONAL COGNITIVE WAY WITHOUT BECOMING ANTAGONISTIC or fearfull.

A great recource is the Kingdom of the Cults by Dr Walter Martin now revised by RaviZacharias. A brilliant work which includes the watchtower.
Every person that has belived and all future watchtower believers will all make the same mistake and thats to test what the watchtower was teaching When Christ inspected the watch tower and gave it the thumbs up and made it the so called ONLY TRUE religious orgabisation.
They will see it was impossible for Christ to approve it fallicies.

IF you look for truth you will find it.
You must truly know Christ not about him. All you guys who write on this site know about Christ however you don’t know him.
Its only by choice or revelation that you do know Him.
They that TRUST in the Lord (not the watchtower) are like Mount Zion.
They shall not be moved, they shall last forever.

Mr Carmelo Bonanno
cakes@edibleart.com.au

]]> By: Jordan http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti/comment-page-1#comment-1377 Jordan Thu, 11 Mar 2010 20:43:20 +0000 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/?p=896#comment-1377 i personally choose to have nothing to do with any jw's do to their manipulative, hypocritical and honestly pathetic behavior. the "organization" has NOT been upholding high values but rather enabling abusive behavior. all i can say is i'm so grateful i left that cult years ago and my children will never have to choose between their family or their life. god or their child. i'm so grateful my mind was able to be freed from their prison!! i personally choose to have nothing to do with any jw’s do to their manipulative, hypocritical and honestly pathetic behavior. the “organization” has NOT been upholding high values but rather enabling abusive behavior. all i can say is i’m so grateful i left that cult years ago and my children will never have to choose between their family or their life. god or their child. i’m so grateful my mind was able to be freed from their prison!!

]]> By: Amiee http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti/comment-page-1#comment-1376 Amiee Wed, 10 Mar 2010 19:41:19 +0000 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/?p=896#comment-1376 It's interesting how many JW's do not know how to spell...... It’s interesting how many JW’s do not know how to spell……

]]> By: George-nigeria http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti/comment-page-1#comment-1374 George-nigeria Fri, 05 Mar 2010 18:39:55 +0000 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/?p=896#comment-1374 i am happy not as ex-jw but as jw. we should be a witness to jah every time in ourlives. God as clearly shown that he is using the wt to dispense spiritual food to his sheep in this time of the end. it's a pity that those of you who called yourselves ex-jw are speaking out of anger and frustration. well you may have a personal fracas againt a fellow believer, but the organisation does not condone wrongdoing and it has been maintaing its santity for ages. you can never do better isolating yourselves from the organisation. you can only suffer spiritual danger. for your good reexamine your intention and heart. in the area of relief aid, the organisation has been standing out when ever there is disaster. their aid has always been benefited by non witnesses. even if the reason is to help believer as commanded by the scripture but the plight of non-believer is not always left out. don't be frustrated and talk thoughtlessly. i am happy not as ex-jw but as jw. we should be a witness to jah every time in ourlives. God as clearly shown that he is using the wt to dispense spiritual food to his sheep in this time of the end. it’s a pity that those of you who called yourselves ex-jw are speaking out of anger and frustration. well you may have a personal fracas againt a fellow believer, but the organisation does not condone wrongdoing and it has been maintaing its santity for ages. you can never do better isolating yourselves from the organisation. you can only suffer spiritual danger. for your good reexamine your intention and heart. in the area of relief aid, the organisation has been standing out when ever there is disaster. their aid has always been benefited by non witnesses. even if the reason is to help believer as commanded by the scripture but the plight of non-believer is not always left out.

don’t be frustrated and talk thoughtlessly.

]]> By: David Gaines http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti/comment-page-1#comment-1369 David Gaines Thu, 25 Feb 2010 03:46:52 +0000 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/?p=896#comment-1369 How much aid have Jehovah's Witnesses been rendering to the countless Haitians severely injured in the earthquake who desperately need blood transfusions? How much aid have Jehovah’s Witnesses been rendering to the countless Haitians severely injured in the earthquake who desperately need blood transfusions?

]]> By: Paul http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti/comment-page-1#comment-1367 Paul Sat, 20 Feb 2010 13:34:48 +0000 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/?p=896#comment-1367 Well, over a month has passed and the ex-JW's have generously given $4750. True, they failed to reach their target of $10,000, but what they have given is better than nothing. But why is it necessary for ex-Witnesses, ex-Catholics or ex-anything else to have an organization in order to collect money? Why wouldn't each individual just give to one of the many existing charities? Or will ex-Witnesses only give to Haiti if they can use it as a means of scoring points against the Watch Tower? If they would have given anyway, then what is the point of this site? This really does look awfully like a botched attempt to gain the moral high ground. "Hey, everyone! Jehovah's Witnesses aren't the only ones giving to Haiti, we do too!" So, while others were using earthquake victims to advance their bitter agenda of hate against their former coreligionists, Jehovah's Witnesses have been really helping. No, they didn't appeal to the public for money. They didn't even appeal to their own members. They just used the funds already collected to arrange aid. Naturally, they were among the first there, because they didn't have to wait for the funds to be donated. Officials and aid workers have been quoted in the French press of having to beg or borrow supplies and medicines from Jehovah's Witnesses. I am so happy and grateful to be part of an organization like that. Well, over a month has passed and the ex-JW’s have generously given $4750. True, they failed to reach their target of $10,000, but what they have given is better than nothing.

But why is it necessary for ex-Witnesses, ex-Catholics or ex-anything else to have an organization in order to collect money? Why wouldn’t each individual just give to one of the many existing charities? Or will ex-Witnesses only give to Haiti if they can use it as a means of scoring points against the Watch Tower? If they would have given anyway, then what is the point of this site?

This really does look awfully like a botched attempt to gain the moral high ground. “Hey, everyone! Jehovah’s Witnesses aren’t the only ones giving to Haiti, we do too!”

So, while others were using earthquake victims to advance their bitter agenda of hate against their former coreligionists, Jehovah’s Witnesses have been really helping.

No, they didn’t appeal to the public for money. They didn’t even appeal to their own members. They just used the funds already collected to arrange aid. Naturally, they were among the first there, because they didn’t have to wait for the funds to be donated. Officials and aid workers have been quoted in the French press of having to beg or borrow supplies and medicines from Jehovah’s Witnesses.

I am so happy and grateful to be part of an organization like that.

]]> By: Carol Horner http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti/comment-page-1#comment-1352 Carol Horner Sun, 07 Feb 2010 17:15:25 +0000 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/?p=896#comment-1352 when i was a jehovah witness i had this guy that was a jehovah witness come to my house he knew i was single he said you want me don't you i had to lock my doors i got scared never went back to the kingdom hall they got some weirdo's when i moved i contacted the elders and said i wanted to go back they said i don't care what you do boy i said i guess no matter where you go they will be watching you very closly so all teenagers are being watched they use teenagers to go back and tell the elders your every move be careful. when i was a jehovah witness i had this guy that was a jehovah witness come to my house he knew i was single he said you want me don’t you i had to lock my doors i got scared never went back to the kingdom hall they got some weirdo’s when i moved i contacted the elders and said i wanted to go back they said i don’t care what you do boy i said i guess no matter where you go they will be watching you very closly so all teenagers are being watched they use teenagers to go back and tell the elders your every move be careful.

]]> By: Tracy Phillips http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2010/01/ex-jws-for-haiti/comment-page-1#comment-1344 Tracy Phillips Tue, 02 Feb 2010 13:30:22 +0000 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/?p=896#comment-1344 Tasted the truth? Are you mad? The truth is this: Jehovah's Witnesses belong to a cult, period. Tasted the truth? Are you mad? The truth is this: Jehovah’s Witnesses belong to a cult, period.

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