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	<title>Comments on: Deconstructing Apostasy</title>
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	<description>Life &#38; healing after leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses...</description>
	<pubDate>Tue, 07 Feb 2012 08:57:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: james</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/12/deconstructing-apostasy/comment-page-1#comment-1717</link>
		<dc:creator>james</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 May 2011 02:20:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Member for over 30yt.Left after reading Millions now living,never die.Found out abouy THE DRUNKEN JUDGE,FAITHFUL SLAVE. WHAT A JOKE,THEN THEY CALL us APOSTATES.GET YOURSELF A COPY of THE FINISHED MYSTERY ay WITNESS INC.COM.WHAT a LULU RUSSELL WAS.Claimed end of 6,000 years 1874.Millenium to start 1878.Still waiting.Moved it to 1914,did not happen,next to 1925,still waiting.DIRECTED BY GOD THOUGH,just a few mis calculations.BUT STILL GODS channel for new light or new understanding,can"t quite figure it out.Did finish high school .JUST CANNOT GRASP SUCH MYSTERY bt JESUS and his APOSTLES.HOW DID ONES GET BAPTIZED no 50 QUESTIONS by WTBT .OH MY maybe they won;t go to HEAVEN ,Didn' use GODS channel.What's a SANE PERSON to DO DO.JUST THINK WE ALL DIE BY ADAM or JESUS AT ARMEGEDDON.I wonder WHICH IS WORSE.JUST AN OLD APOSTATE'S OPINION.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Member for over 30yt.Left after reading Millions now living,never die.Found out abouy THE DRUNKEN JUDGE,FAITHFUL SLAVE. WHAT A JOKE,THEN THEY CALL us APOSTATES.GET YOURSELF A COPY of THE FINISHED MYSTERY ay WITNESS INC.COM.WHAT a LULU RUSSELL WAS.Claimed end of 6,000 years 1874.Millenium to start 1878.Still waiting.Moved it to 1914,did not happen,next to 1925,still waiting.DIRECTED BY GOD THOUGH,just a few mis calculations.BUT STILL GODS channel for new light or new understanding,can&#8221;t quite figure it out.Did finish high school .JUST CANNOT GRASP SUCH MYSTERY bt JESUS and his APOSTLES.HOW DID ONES GET BAPTIZED no 50 QUESTIONS by WTBT .OH MY maybe they won;t go to HEAVEN ,Didn&#8217; use GODS channel.What&#8217;s a SANE PERSON to DO DO.JUST THINK WE ALL DIE BY ADAM or JESUS AT ARMEGEDDON.I wonder WHICH IS WORSE.JUST AN OLD APOSTATE&#8217;S OPINION.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron / Jor-L5150</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/12/deconstructing-apostasy/comment-page-1#comment-1654</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron / Jor-L5150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:26:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ jjj :

- the watchtower spares no oppurtunity to attack other religions, the non-religious, and any philosophy that disagrees with it's (flavor of the moment) "truth".
they dish it out, but they can't take it.

- we HAVE "moved on" in the sense that we are out of it- we are free thinking and we aim to help others find thier way. personally, i was so afraid of the society that i needed the research and accumulation of facts to have the courage to leave. now i'm a completely different and better person. being free of this LIE demands we lend sympathy and support to others still finding thier way. it's the least we can do after years of trying to recruit people into this HOAX.

- finally, your assumption that we are looking for a consequence free, unaccountable lifestyle, the idea that we left to seek sin without a lecture, the idea that all former jw's are so petty...

it's insulting, inaccurate and you embarass yourself with the suggestion.
SOME jw's leave and do engage in ill-advised behavior and suffer for it. 
a) this does not mean your religion is "truth", it means that self destructive behavior is bad for you, regardless of your parent's church
b) most of these who do "rebel and sin" become "cautionary tales" explotied by the watchtower and paraded around at conventions and assemblies. creating a false impression that theres ONLY a column A: "truth" and column B: "sin/suffering".
you're BOTH wrong. 
i know several ELDERS who are examples of being selfish dimwits who, after drugs and paternity suits suddenly "found god" when the going got tough.

we are not impressed.

there is a better way: a rational self-interest and genuine compassion.  

besides, as a jw apologist, you're not even supposed to be here anyway- 
which congregation do you attend? perhaps we should tell the elders you're associating with apostates...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ jjj :</p>
<p>- the watchtower spares no oppurtunity to attack other religions, the non-religious, and any philosophy that disagrees with it&#8217;s (flavor of the moment) &#8220;truth&#8221;.<br />
they dish it out, but they can&#8217;t take it.</p>
<p>- we HAVE &#8220;moved on&#8221; in the sense that we are out of it- we are free thinking and we aim to help others find thier way. personally, i was so afraid of the society that i needed the research and accumulation of facts to have the courage to leave. now i&#8217;m a completely different and better person. being free of this LIE demands we lend sympathy and support to others still finding thier way. it&#8217;s the least we can do after years of trying to recruit people into this HOAX.</p>
<p>- finally, your assumption that we are looking for a consequence free, unaccountable lifestyle, the idea that we left to seek sin without a lecture, the idea that all former jw&#8217;s are so petty&#8230;</p>
<p>it&#8217;s insulting, inaccurate and you embarass yourself with the suggestion.<br />
SOME jw&#8217;s leave and do engage in ill-advised behavior and suffer for it.<br />
a) this does not mean your religion is &#8220;truth&#8221;, it means that self destructive behavior is bad for you, regardless of your parent&#8217;s church<br />
b) most of these who do &#8220;rebel and sin&#8221; become &#8220;cautionary tales&#8221; explotied by the watchtower and paraded around at conventions and assemblies. creating a false impression that theres ONLY a column A: &#8220;truth&#8221; and column B: &#8220;sin/suffering&#8221;.<br />
you&#8217;re BOTH wrong.<br />
i know several ELDERS who are examples of being selfish dimwits who, after drugs and paternity suits suddenly &#8220;found god&#8221; when the going got tough.</p>
<p>we are not impressed.</p>
<p>there is a better way: a rational self-interest and genuine compassion.  </p>
<p>besides, as a jw apologist, you&#8217;re not even supposed to be here anyway-<br />
which congregation do you attend? perhaps we should tell the elders you&#8217;re associating with apostates&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron / Jor-L5150</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/12/deconstructing-apostasy/comment-page-1#comment-1653</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron / Jor-L5150</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 20 Feb 2011 00:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>RE: this article:

good stuff. being an "apostate" is a badge of honor. there is no shame in refusing to participate in a hoax. 
the wtahctower bible and tract isn't just a nosense church- it's a demonstrable HOAX. 

i honestly don't know how i've dodged "disfellowshipping" for these last 7plus years. 
theres actually many jay-dubs i went to the kingdom hall with that are friendly to me. go figure.

but, they believe in things that are quite easily proven to be absolute falshoods. 
the "apostates" arent the ones with something to hide.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>RE: this article:</p>
<p>good stuff. being an &#8220;apostate&#8221; is a badge of honor. there is no shame in refusing to participate in a hoax.<br />
the wtahctower bible and tract isn&#8217;t just a nosense church- it&#8217;s a demonstrable HOAX. </p>
<p>i honestly don&#8217;t know how i&#8217;ve dodged &#8220;disfellowshipping&#8221; for these last 7plus years.<br />
theres actually many jay-dubs i went to the kingdom hall with that are friendly to me. go figure.</p>
<p>but, they believe in things that are quite easily proven to be absolute falshoods.<br />
the &#8220;apostates&#8221; arent the ones with something to hide.</p>
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		<title>By: Gigga</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/12/deconstructing-apostasy/comment-page-1#comment-1644</link>
		<dc:creator>Gigga</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Jan 2011 15:26:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was ask one brother the other day can you please Explain to me Deu 18:19-20. as since the 1960's the society predicted the end of the world "Armagedon".  the scripture states if a prophet predicts something and it doesnt come true that they are false prophets. I was Labeld a Apostate without a explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was ask one brother the other day can you please Explain to me Deu 18:19-20. as since the 1960&#8217;s the society predicted the end of the world &#8220;Armagedon&#8221;.  the scripture states if a prophet predicts something and it doesnt come true that they are false prophets. I was Labeld a Apostate without a explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: Seth Jacobs</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/12/deconstructing-apostasy/comment-page-1#comment-1600</link>
		<dc:creator>Seth Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Nov 2010 20:09:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If only a JW was allowed to use common sense and think for himself.  Thanks for this simple breakdown of fact.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If only a JW was allowed to use common sense and think for himself.  Thanks for this simple breakdown of fact.</p>
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		<title>By: Me</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/12/deconstructing-apostasy/comment-page-1#comment-1597</link>
		<dc:creator>Me</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 16 Nov 2010 15:05:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very powerful.  I love it.  Thank you so much.

I know that this information would fall on deaf ears though as even reading or casting their eyes on this page would have them racked with fear the devil himself will be jumping out from the page to collect them!  To be seriously that afraid of Satan and that committed to the written word of men, is insane.  To know that they cannot reach out of that for fear of death, is even more insane.

The web this organisation weaves to keep those within it's walls is tight.  And I like your question, WHY?  Why do they need to tie you in so tightly wound you are afraid to even glance upon such apostate material, talk to an apostate or even examine with an apostate.  

I was never baptised (thankfully) but was denied study because I kept wanting to question the things being taught to me.  I was told the study was a precious resource that would be reserved for those who  might actually progress and move forward from ongoing questioning!  Ok, so apparently Jehovah didn't want me - despite my trying to hold on with my nails.  

I am deeply hurt but forever grateful.  What a strange way to feel.  Only an JW, raised as a child in the truth can understand a mixed up, confused feeling like this.

I am grateful there are so many others who share almost identical feelings.  Amazing how we get out of this cookie-cutter religion with cookie-cutter damage!  There's something in that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very powerful.  I love it.  Thank you so much.</p>
<p>I know that this information would fall on deaf ears though as even reading or casting their eyes on this page would have them racked with fear the devil himself will be jumping out from the page to collect them!  To be seriously that afraid of Satan and that committed to the written word of men, is insane.  To know that they cannot reach out of that for fear of death, is even more insane.</p>
<p>The web this organisation weaves to keep those within it&#8217;s walls is tight.  And I like your question, WHY?  Why do they need to tie you in so tightly wound you are afraid to even glance upon such apostate material, talk to an apostate or even examine with an apostate.  </p>
<p>I was never baptised (thankfully) but was denied study because I kept wanting to question the things being taught to me.  I was told the study was a precious resource that would be reserved for those who  might actually progress and move forward from ongoing questioning!  Ok, so apparently Jehovah didn&#8217;t want me - despite my trying to hold on with my nails.  </p>
<p>I am deeply hurt but forever grateful.  What a strange way to feel.  Only an JW, raised as a child in the truth can understand a mixed up, confused feeling like this.</p>
<p>I am grateful there are so many others who share almost identical feelings.  Amazing how we get out of this cookie-cutter religion with cookie-cutter damage!  There&#8217;s something in that.</p>
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		<title>By: cheonggon Nam</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/12/deconstructing-apostasy/comment-page-1#comment-1519</link>
		<dc:creator>cheonggon Nam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Aug 2010 12:22:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>近墨者黑,近朱者赤</description>
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		<title>By: -</title>
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		<dc:creator>-</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Aug 2010 13:44:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Death to the Watchtower Society and Tract!
Liberation of their poor victims! 
The end is near, not of this "system of things" but of this society that traps innocent and sincere people in its net!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Death to the Watchtower Society and Tract!<br />
Liberation of their poor victims!<br />
The end is near, not of this &#8220;system of things&#8221; but of this society that traps innocent and sincere people in its net!</p>
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		<title>By: Daniel Chamberlayne</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/12/deconstructing-apostasy/comment-page-1#comment-1489</link>
		<dc:creator>Daniel Chamberlayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 07:23:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>How long are we going to allow this arrogant and destructive organization exist without challenging their so-called authority on so-called "truth"??

How many more people have to continue not speaking to their family and friends because they are labeled an apostates based upon what an organization of men say or tell you ?

As long as I'm living on this earth....I will continue speaking out against the injustices of the Watchtower and Tract Society !!

I will continue being a pest and a thorn at their side !!

The organization can call me an apostate all they want....I wont bend and every chance I get...I WILL STAND UP TO THEM AND SPEAK TRUTH !!

Daniel Chamberlayne

Author- The Kingdom Hall No More</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>How long are we going to allow this arrogant and destructive organization exist without challenging their so-called authority on so-called &#8220;truth&#8221;??</p>
<p>How many more people have to continue not speaking to their family and friends because they are labeled an apostates based upon what an organization of men say or tell you ?</p>
<p>As long as I&#8217;m living on this earth&#8230;.I will continue speaking out against the injustices of the Watchtower and Tract Society !!</p>
<p>I will continue being a pest and a thorn at their side !!</p>
<p>The organization can call me an apostate all they want&#8230;.I wont bend and every chance I get&#8230;I WILL STAND UP TO THEM AND SPEAK TRUTH !!</p>
<p>Daniel Chamberlayne</p>
<p>Author- The Kingdom Hall No More</p>
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		<title>By: For Ex-JWs &#8211; Sites to Explore &#8212; VirusHead</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/12/deconstructing-apostasy/comment-page-1#comment-1301</link>
		<dc:creator>For Ex-JWs &#8211; Sites to Explore &#8212; VirusHead</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 09 Jan 2010 19:46:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] leaving, loving, and thriving. I think some of us would go further and reject the very word &#8220;apostate&#8221; because its connectations are too deeply [...]</description>
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