Comments on: How I Became an Individual http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual Life & healing after leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses... Fri, 30 Jul 2010 14:38:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.7 hourly 1 By: Alisa http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual/comment-page-1#comment-1499 Alisa Thu, 29 Jul 2010 08:03:55 +0000 http://exjw.wordpress.com/?p=294#comment-1499 It is amazing how things do creep up even this far and this much education later where I have an anal reaction to something and I realize I'm thinking in the dualistic absolute terms of a JW and I have to unravel the knot I get into and reconstruct the thought in relative terms. Sometimes, I get an almost PTSD reaction and panic if I sense conflict or fear that everyone will turn against me if I say something counter current. I have enough experience and new skills now, like conflict resolution, to work through that one, too, but it's amazing how much that culture affected me. The fact that I'm pouring my heart out in the middle of the night to reach out to a stranger to say it's ok, you're not alone, you're not crazy, you're actually on the path to sanity. The thought of having all of the answers doesn't comfort me at all. I still had anxiety from the fear of the unknown, because I don't really believe the stories I always heard in churches. I always say, if there's a god, god made me agnostic. To me, the only thing that has freed me from anxiety is what I consider real faith, and that is just accepting that everything is uncertain and enjoying your life and health while you have it, and evoking strength and endurance when you face challenges. It is amazing how things do creep up even this far and this much education later where I have an anal reaction to something and I realize I’m thinking in the dualistic absolute terms of a JW and I have to unravel the knot I get into and reconstruct the thought in relative terms. Sometimes, I get an almost PTSD reaction and panic if I sense conflict or fear that everyone will turn against me if I say something counter current. I have enough experience and new skills now, like conflict resolution, to work through that one, too, but it’s amazing how much that culture affected me. The fact that I’m pouring my heart out in the middle of the night to reach out to a stranger to say it’s ok, you’re not alone, you’re not crazy, you’re actually on the path to sanity.

The thought of having all of the answers doesn’t comfort me at all. I still had anxiety from the fear of the unknown, because I don’t really believe the stories I always heard in churches. I always say, if there’s a god, god made me agnostic. To me, the only thing that has freed me from anxiety is what I consider real faith, and that is just accepting that everything is uncertain and enjoying your life and health while you have it, and evoking strength and endurance when you face challenges.

]]> By: Londongirl92 http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual/comment-page-1#comment-1495 Londongirl92 Tue, 20 Jul 2010 18:13:52 +0000 http://exjw.wordpress.com/?p=294#comment-1495 I think what you did is really smart and admirable. By doing this you have helped better yourself by making yourself a more rounded and open minded person. I really respect you, because you were highly influenced from a very early age by the Jehovah's Witnesses, in a way, you were indoctrinated (or brainwashed) by their beliefs because you were constantly surrounded by them. As a result, you didn't know any better. It is really cool that you were able to identify their faults and manage to develop your own mind, which shows that you were truly faithful in my opinion. I feel that God would respect you for that, rather than just continuing to mindlessly follow the JWs. I used to study the Bible with Jehovah's Witnesses when I was younger, but I left because I was bored, none of my parents did it with me, and because I did not have any teenage peers also in the congregation. I also didn't agree with some of their doctrines, such as disassociating yourself from the outside 'world,' that really wasn't for me and I feel now that if I stayed I would have rebelled and just been a hypocrite. When I used to study with them I used to see those children from JW families who were home schooled and pity them because they weren't opened up to the outside world. I feel that if they were and they still remained JWs that would have been better for them as it would mean that they were true rather than just there because that's all they know, if you understand what I mean. It's mindless faith, rather than real faith. I think what you did is really smart and admirable. By doing this you have helped better yourself by making yourself a more rounded and open minded person. I really respect you, because you were highly influenced from a very early age by the Jehovah’s Witnesses, in a way, you were indoctrinated (or brainwashed) by their beliefs because you were constantly surrounded by them. As a result, you didn’t know any better. It is really cool that you were able to identify their faults and manage to develop your own mind, which shows that you were truly faithful in my opinion. I feel that God would respect you for that, rather than just continuing to mindlessly follow the JWs.

I used to study the Bible with Jehovah’s Witnesses when I was younger, but I left because I was bored, none of my parents did it with me, and because I did not have any teenage peers also in the congregation. I also didn’t agree with some of their doctrines, such as disassociating yourself from the outside ‘world,’ that really wasn’t for me and I feel now that if I stayed I would have rebelled and just been a hypocrite. When I used to study with them I used to see those children from JW families who were home schooled and pity them because they weren’t opened up to the outside world. I feel that if they were and they still remained JWs that would have been better for them as it would mean that they were true rather than just there because that’s all they know, if you understand what I mean. It’s mindless faith, rather than real faith.

]]> By: Erica http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual/comment-page-1#comment-1493 Erica Thu, 15 Jul 2010 20:32:07 +0000 http://exjw.wordpress.com/?p=294#comment-1493 To WWINTERRAYNES and anyone else who would like privacy in their home, It is unfortunate that your former congregation members won't respect your wishes and leave you alone at your request. My husband is an ex-JW too and they would come to our home every month for years to try to get him back. We explicitly said we weren't interested and to please leave us alone. When they showed up around Christmas time last year I'd had enough. I stood in front of our big picture windows decorating our Christmas tree in the nude. Guess what? They haven't been back since! You may want to try something like this, because they do not want to subject their existing members to "corruption" and will flag your residence as a place from which to stay away. May we all stay strong, happy, and free from guilt!! Life is made to be lived to the fullest of our dreams, without fear and full of love. A God of love does not operate through fear and guilt, and any organization that worships a god of fear and guilt does not truly know God, because God is undoubtedly made of Love. We all know this deep inside ourselves, and anything else cannot be real. To WWINTERRAYNES and anyone else who would like privacy in their home,

It is unfortunate that your former congregation members won’t respect your wishes and leave you alone at your request. My husband is an ex-JW too and they would come to our home every month for years to try to get him back. We explicitly said we weren’t interested and to please leave us alone. When they showed up around Christmas time last year I’d had enough. I stood in front of our big picture windows decorating our Christmas tree in the nude. Guess what? They haven’t been back since! You may want to try something like this, because they do not want to subject their existing members to “corruption” and will flag your residence as a place from which to stay away.

May we all stay strong, happy, and free from guilt!! Life is made to be lived to the fullest of our dreams, without fear and full of love. A God of love does not operate through fear and guilt, and any organization that worships a god of fear and guilt does not truly know God, because God is undoubtedly made of Love. We all know this deep inside ourselves, and anything else cannot be real.

]]> By: Christian Peper http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual/comment-page-1#comment-1491 Christian Peper Sat, 10 Jul 2010 16:06:18 +0000 http://exjw.wordpress.com/?p=294#comment-1491 The Jehovah Witness organization uses very serious mind control tools that cause the members to be unable to think for themselves. I was roommates with a Jehovah Witness cult member who took away all of my basic freedoms. It is very wrong to exert the kind of control the organization has over its members and not allow them free thought. The Jehovah Witness organization uses very serious mind control tools that cause the members to be unable to think for themselves. I was roommates with a Jehovah Witness cult member who took away all of my basic freedoms. It is very wrong to exert the kind of control the organization has over its members and not allow them free thought.

]]> By: zdl http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual/comment-page-1#comment-1485 zdl Sun, 04 Jul 2010 11:57:01 +0000 http://exjw.wordpress.com/?p=294#comment-1485 I'm 23 years old. I moved to New York in 1992. JW's first came in contact with my mother and three brothers as a way for us to learn english. We studied books that we didn't understand, and on the weekends they took us out to parks, hiking, just random activities that my Mom didn't have the time to do with all us boys (She was a single mother with 4 kids and a disabled son in a foreign country, i can't blame her). My mother begins studies in spanish... then My disabled brother died. My mother was devastated, we were all devastated. The woman that was offering my mother "studies" showed genuine care and love for us, she was a young puerto rican woman, a nurse... she was at the hospital as an interpreter for my mom after my brother died. She took it upon herself to assist my mom in all funeral arrangements, found an "elder" to speak of resurrection at the funeral, and my mom was hooked... It was the only thing that offered her peace. I can remember her prayer while they lowered my brothers casket. I sometimes feel as if my mother's soul was torn that day. She lost herself. She became a robot. Work, church, work, church, work. My brothers loved the attention that they got at the Kingdom Hall and quickly become little JW overachievers. They were baptized before my mom, with her approval, and she joined them a year later. We lived the JW lifestyle: kingdom halls, gatherings, movies, weddings, showers, preaching, studying, studies, the whole cha-bang-- no complaints until my eldest brother decided to leave the "truth" and move to another state (at 18 years old). My mother married a 20-year veteran elder of the congregation in less than 6 months of courting. Needless to say, he was a fucking asshole. Knowing that she had 2 kids with her (and one in miami), he made it a point to battle for the title of HEAD OF HOUSE and because the Bible said that he made the decisions, those decisions were final. He had a 25 year old daughter was was also JW. He kicked her out of his house because she got pregnant and he could not keep his title as an elder if he had a unmarried pregnant daughter. She was the first to go. Me and my older brother were left. My older brother was always into the whole JW thing until he turned 17, he got tired of never being good enough for my step-father's standards. I was in the room when my stepfather told my brother that he would not be able to be an elder if he was still living with us, so my brother, with no experience, no friends (all his friends were JW), not a dime in his pocket, just a small part-time at the GAP, left my house and faced the world alone. I can remember the day he packed his things, my stepfather made us have family "study" time to prepare the watchtower as my brother was moving. I couldn't help him or anything. It's like... I get so mad at my mother for being so stupid and just sitting there as this fucking stupid asshole kicked her son (my brother) out on the street and didn't even let her wave goodbye. After my brother was gone, all his anger and rage turned to me. I tried to do the right thing but he would constantly harass me with insults and stupid shit. I mean, I get mad at myself for how much of a pussy I was as a kid, I should've been the kind of kid that said "fuck you, you're 'not my dad" but no, I wanted my mom to be happy. I played along with all this religion bullshit. I lived with someone who was supposed to be "exemplary" in the congregation. Someone you would've called to seek council. He was just the biggest liar in the history of mankind, and I will always hate him and the organization that gave him that power over myself and my brothers and my mother. He moved me and my mother to Atlanta, to start over and SERVE the organization where we were needed most. I was 15, just left ALL my family in New York City. In NY i could escape his world with my immediate family who always sided with me (non-Jehovah's WItnesses), in Atlanta it was either deal with him, school, or the congregation. As I grew older we kept bumping heads... by the time I was 16 my mother had enough of the constant fighting and insults that she told my step-father to leave. He left. Moved to another state for 4 years. I was more free, I was more open to new ideas with this new freedom and broke out of the whole JW grip. My eldest brother moved back in with me and my mother, then came my other brother. We were all back together again, but R (my eldest bro) was disfellowshipped & G (the middle bro) wasn't a JW and soon moved out with his girlfriend. R my eldest brother fell in love with a sister of the congregation who hired my mother into her small business. She was separated from someone who was fairly close to us as well, we knew them from the congregation. Somehow someone found out my brother was seeing this girl and she was disfellowship. The elders of the congregation and they're whole click of people who felt they had power in the congregation believed that me and my mother were in on the whole thing. That we knew what my brother was doing and didn't say anything or seek council. We did know. But fuck you, its my brother, am I just gonna tell him to fuck himself? No, so I kept my mouth shut. They shunned us. My mom didn't ever get those talks/assignments at the meetings, all the kids from the congregation that would hang out with me completely turned around on me. I noticed everything quickly and just finally decided to tell my mother the truth and refused to go back. She was devastated, but she let me do my thing. She only forbade immorality in her house, while I "found my head." I got my first girlfriend outside of the church and lose my virginity at 18 years old. At 18 all i wanted to do was fuck, so I was constantly with my new girlfriend. My mother got me to admit that I was being sexually active. When I admitted it, she asked me to move out. Yes-- AGAIN: 18, no experience, not a dime, and a shitty part-time at Best-Buy.----------- The rest is just a blurr... I mean. I've educated myself. I know that I had a lot of JW tendencies, but now they've faded. I feel that I make my decisions based on my research and not by being drilled with information week in and week out. I wish there were a way to get my family out of it. Both my brothers and their wives are JW. I have a nephew that my brother G won't let me see, because G won't spend time around me because I'm disfellowshipped. He feels that he'll be the one to make me go back to being a JW. My mother is still married to the prick, she talks to me, but I wish she was more about her family than her religion.... I hate Jehovah's witnesses... you took my childhood and my family. I’m 23 years old. I moved to New York in 1992. JW’s first came in contact with my mother and three brothers as a way for us to learn english. We studied books that we didn’t understand, and on the weekends they took us out to parks, hiking, just random activities that my Mom didn’t have the time to do with all us boys (She was a single mother with 4 kids and a disabled son in a foreign country, i can’t blame her). My mother begins studies in spanish… then My disabled brother died. My mother was devastated, we were all devastated. The woman that was offering my mother “studies” showed genuine care and love for us, she was a young puerto rican woman, a nurse… she was at the hospital as an interpreter for my mom after my brother died. She took it upon herself to assist my mom in all funeral arrangements, found an “elder” to speak of resurrection at the funeral, and my mom was hooked… It was the only thing that offered her peace. I can remember her prayer while they lowered my brothers casket. I sometimes feel as if my mother’s soul was torn that day. She lost herself. She became a robot. Work, church, work, church, work. My brothers loved the attention that they got at the Kingdom Hall and quickly become little JW overachievers. They were baptized before my mom, with her approval, and she joined them a year later. We lived the JW lifestyle: kingdom halls, gatherings, movies, weddings, showers, preaching, studying, studies, the whole cha-bang– no complaints until my eldest brother decided to leave the “truth” and move to another state (at 18 years old). My mother married a 20-year veteran elder of the congregation in less than 6 months of courting. Needless to say, he was a fucking asshole. Knowing that she had 2 kids with her (and one in miami), he made it a point to battle for the title of HEAD OF HOUSE and because the Bible said that he made the decisions, those decisions were final. He had a 25 year old daughter was was also JW. He kicked her out of his house because she got pregnant and he could not keep his title as an elder if he had a unmarried pregnant daughter. She was the first to go. Me and my older brother were left. My older brother was always into the whole JW thing until he turned 17, he got tired of never being good enough for my step-father’s standards. I was in the room when my stepfather told my brother that he would not be able to be an elder if he was still living with us, so my brother, with no experience, no friends (all his friends were JW), not a dime in his pocket, just a small part-time at the GAP, left my house and faced the world alone. I can remember the day he packed his things, my stepfather made us have family “study” time to prepare the watchtower as my brother was moving. I couldn’t help him or anything. It’s like… I get so mad at my mother for being so stupid and just sitting there as this fucking stupid asshole kicked her son (my brother) out on the street and didn’t even let her wave goodbye.

After my brother was gone, all his anger and rage turned to me. I tried to do the right thing but he would constantly harass me with insults and stupid shit. I mean, I get mad at myself for how much of a pussy I was as a kid, I should’ve been the kind of kid that said “fuck you, you’re ‘not my dad” but no, I wanted my mom to be happy. I played along with all this religion bullshit. I lived with someone who was supposed to be “exemplary” in the congregation. Someone you would’ve called to seek council. He was just the biggest liar in the history of mankind, and I will always hate him and the organization that gave him that power over myself and my brothers and my mother. He moved me and my mother to Atlanta, to start over and SERVE the organization where we were needed most. I was 15, just left ALL my family in New York City. In NY i could escape his world with my immediate family who always sided with me (non-Jehovah’s WItnesses), in Atlanta it was either deal with him, school, or the congregation.

As I grew older we kept bumping heads… by the time I was 16 my mother had enough of the constant fighting and insults that she told my step-father to leave. He left. Moved to another state for 4 years. I was more free, I was more open to new ideas with this new freedom and broke out of the whole JW grip. My eldest brother moved back in with me and my mother, then came my other brother. We were all back together again, but R (my eldest bro) was disfellowshipped & G (the middle bro) wasn’t a JW and soon moved out with his girlfriend. R my eldest brother fell in love with a sister of the congregation who hired my mother into her small business. She was separated from someone who was fairly close to us as well, we knew them from the congregation. Somehow someone found out my brother was seeing this girl and she was disfellowship. The elders of the congregation and they’re whole click of people who felt they had power in the congregation believed that me and my mother were in on the whole thing. That we knew what my brother was doing and didn’t say anything or seek council. We did know. But fuck you, its my brother, am I just gonna tell him to fuck himself? No, so I kept my mouth shut. They shunned us. My mom didn’t ever get those talks/assignments at the meetings, all the kids from the congregation that would hang out with me completely turned around on me. I noticed everything quickly and just finally decided to tell my mother the truth and refused to go back. She was devastated, but she let me do my thing. She only forbade immorality in her house, while I “found my head.” I got my first girlfriend outside of the church and lose my virginity at 18 years old. At 18 all i wanted to do was fuck, so I was constantly with my new girlfriend. My mother got me to admit that I was being sexually active. When I admitted it, she asked me to move out. Yes– AGAIN: 18, no experience, not a dime, and a shitty part-time at Best-Buy.———–

The rest is just a blurr… I mean. I’ve educated myself. I know that I had a lot of JW tendencies, but now they’ve faded. I feel that I make my decisions based on my research and not by being drilled with information week in and week out. I wish there were a way to get my family out of it. Both my brothers and their wives are JW. I have a nephew that my brother G won’t let me see, because G won’t spend time around me because I’m disfellowshipped. He feels that he’ll be the one to make me go back to being a JW. My mother is still married to the prick, she talks to me, but I wish she was more about her family than her religion….

I hate Jehovah’s witnesses… you took my childhood and my family.

]]> By: phoenix http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual/comment-page-1#comment-1475 phoenix Tue, 22 Jun 2010 00:45:45 +0000 http://exjw.wordpress.com/?p=294#comment-1475 This article really hit home for me. I've been away from the JWs for a long time but some indoctrinations die hard. The last presidential election was the first time that I voted. And even though I knew it was silly I felt guilty the whole time. How is it that an intelligent, rational woman can be made to feel that something bad will happen to her for exercising her constiutional rights? I couldn't share this with any of my friends because none of them would understand the impact of being subjected to that level of mind control. So even though I'm no longer a JW I still feel the stigma of being different. I'm grateful there's a place where I can connect with fellow survivors and know that I'm not alone. This article really hit home for me. I’ve been away from the JWs for a long time but some indoctrinations die hard. The last presidential election was the first time that I voted. And even though I knew it was silly I felt guilty the whole time. How is it that an intelligent, rational woman can be made to feel that something bad will happen to her for exercising her constiutional rights? I couldn’t share this with any of my friends because none of them would understand the impact of being subjected to that level of mind control. So even though I’m no longer a JW I still feel the stigma of being different. I’m grateful there’s a place where I can connect with fellow survivors and know that I’m not alone.

]]> By: bobby s http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual/comment-page-1#comment-1474 bobby s Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:46:51 +0000 http://exjw.wordpress.com/?p=294#comment-1474 PLEASE?READ MY ABOVE COMMENT A COUPLE OF TIMES BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE AND NOT AMERICAN MIND DO,NT LET ME DO THIS PERFECT, BUT FOR SURE I DO HAVE CHRISTIAN MIND AS A CHILD OF GOD ROMANS 8;14-18. CHILD OF GOD POINT ONLY TO THE HOLY WORD OF GODS HOLY BIBLE,AND OBEY IS IN EACH WORD OF HOLY BIBLE NOT MAN MADE SALVATIONS AND TEACHINGS CONTRADICT GODS ALMIGHTY WORD HOLY BIBLE.2 TIMOTHY 3;16-17. I AM SURE!?I AM PROPERTY OF CHRIST?!!BUT NOT JW BROOKLYN SLAWE MINDED MAN MADE ORGANISATION FROM THE TIME OF JUDGE RUTHEFORD SECOND PRESIDENT OF WATCHTOWER SOCIETY, OR OTHER SO CALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES PLEASE?READ MY ABOVE COMMENT A COUPLE OF TIMES BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE AND NOT AMERICAN MIND DO,NT LET ME DO THIS PERFECT,
BUT FOR SURE I DO HAVE CHRISTIAN MIND AS A CHILD OF GOD ROMANS 8;14-18.
CHILD OF GOD POINT ONLY TO THE HOLY WORD OF GODS HOLY BIBLE,AND OBEY IS IN EACH WORD OF HOLY BIBLE NOT MAN MADE SALVATIONS AND TEACHINGS CONTRADICT GODS ALMIGHTY WORD HOLY BIBLE.2 TIMOTHY 3;16-17.
I AM SURE!?I AM PROPERTY OF CHRIST?!!BUT NOT JW BROOKLYN SLAWE MINDED MAN MADE ORGANISATION FROM THE TIME OF JUDGE RUTHEFORD SECOND PRESIDENT OF WATCHTOWER SOCIETY, OR OTHER SO CALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES

]]> By: bobby stecko http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual/comment-page-1#comment-1473 bobby stecko Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:43:08 +0000 http://exjw.wordpress.com/?p=294#comment-1473 PLEASE?READ MY COMMENT A COUPLE OF TIMES BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE AND NOT AMERICAN MIND DO,NT LET ME DO THIS PERFECT, BUT FOR SURE I DO HAVE CHRISTIAN MIND AS A CHILD OF GOD ROMANS 8;14-18. CHILD OF GOD POINT ONLY TO THE HOLY WORD OF GODS HOLY BIBLE,AND OBEY IS IN EACH WORD OF HOLY BIBLE NOT MAN MADE SALVATIONS AND TEACHINGS CONTRADICT GODS ALMIGHTY WORD HOLY BIBLE.2 TIMOTHY 3;16-17. I AM SURE!?I AM PROPERTY OF CHRIST?!!BUT NOT JW BROOKLYN SLAWE MINDED MAN MADE ORGANISATION FROM THE TIME OF JUDGE RUTHEFORD SECOND PRESIDENT OF WATCHTOWER SOCIETY, OR OTHER SO CALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES PLEASE?READ MY COMMENT A COUPLE OF TIMES BECAUSE OF MY EXPERIENCE AND NOT AMERICAN MIND DO,NT LET ME DO THIS PERFECT,
BUT FOR SURE I DO HAVE CHRISTIAN MIND AS A CHILD OF GOD ROMANS 8;14-18.
CHILD OF GOD POINT ONLY TO THE HOLY WORD OF GODS HOLY BIBLE,AND OBEY IS IN EACH WORD OF HOLY BIBLE NOT MAN MADE SALVATIONS AND TEACHINGS CONTRADICT GODS ALMIGHTY WORD HOLY BIBLE.2 TIMOTHY 3;16-17.
I AM SURE!?I AM PROPERTY OF CHRIST?!!BUT NOT JW BROOKLYN SLAWE MINDED MAN MADE ORGANISATION FROM THE TIME OF JUDGE RUTHEFORD SECOND PRESIDENT OF WATCHTOWER SOCIETY, OR OTHER SO CALL CHRISTIAN CHURCHES

]]> By: bobby stecko http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual/comment-page-1#comment-1472 bobby stecko Mon, 21 Jun 2010 03:28:24 +0000 http://exjw.wordpress.com/?p=294#comment-1472 independent thinking is own responsibility before Almighty God JEHOWA(JESUES) HOLY BIBLE CLEAR SAYS THAT "EACH ONE OF US IS BEFORE GOD AND HAVE OWN BURDEN,BURDEN OF SINS OF LIFE, INDEPENDENT THINKING AND CHRISTIAN FREEDOM'You will know the truth and the truth set you free.....so those words are Jesus words. I was for past 30 years JW,I do,nt have negativ thinking about those people who failed in the theological modern autocrative slawery of JW Brooklyn Organisation based on organisational laws of 2 century so call christian churches for example thelogians Ignathius or Eusebius,only JW laws are twisted in the modern style,but anyway this is man made Gospel not JESUS CHRIST only Gods mercy can remove child of GOD from this organisation,I am talking about children of GOD who belongs to spiritual church in the heaven, who are obey only one Teacher JEHOWA(JESUS) Holy Word Bible,and are born again John 3;3 I do,nt count according to the HOLY WORD BIBLE that anybody who left JW have freedom!,what kind of freedom!?,HOLY BIBLE teach that all who are not born again from the Holy Spirit GODS WORD Bible written to HIS CHILDREN,are going day by day to the eternal damnation (death)today do,nt exist no more church or organisations who can save own members! JW AND ALL CHURCHES BELONG TODAY TO A SATAN 2 THESSALONIANS 2;3-11. One example is NWT Bible of JW,THIS Bible is completly false and contradict with original hebrew language and greek (kojne)ancient greek New Testament.This Bible is JW Brooklyn bible, but for sure this is most misleading book leading people to false Gospel. homosexuality is a sin against own body Romans 1;22-28 you can read more about this subject in Deutoronomy,but each one of us is like sinful filty rugs before God,and each one of us have to have mercy and love to a human being,each one of us have to cry for mercy and forgiveness to GODS ALMIGHTY because of genetical sin from Adam,please?before you put somebody down,at first think about yourself!look in your mirror!?what kind of freedom you got regardless who are you JW,Open mind,catolic or Mormon. just put your own mind,heart,and humble beseech for GODS MERCY BEFORE IS NOT TO LATE!!! READ PSALM 51;10,11,12,17 broken spirit,a broken and contrite heart,O God,thou will not despise .nobody can help us to be saved nobody!!!Only JESUS SHED HIS BLOOD FOR HIS CHOSEN CHILDREN all Preachers and Governing Body of JW should pray and beseech for yourself and own salvation,but for sure not lead people to salvation because BROOKLYN IS NOT PLACE OF SALVATION OR GODS SPIRIT PLACE.They lead JW to a damnation (death,)man made Gospel do,nt save nobody!nobody!Maybe only few JESUS WILL SAVE FROM JW PEOPLE,BUT THIS IS ALMIGHTY GODS PERFECT PLAN AND ABSOLUTE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT SOLVE A PROBLEMS OF HIS CHILDREN ON THE EARTH, IZAIAH 9;6-7 independent thinking is own responsibility before Almighty God JEHOWA(JESUES) HOLY BIBLE CLEAR SAYS THAT “EACH ONE OF US IS BEFORE GOD AND HAVE OWN BURDEN,BURDEN OF SINS OF LIFE, INDEPENDENT THINKING AND CHRISTIAN FREEDOM’You will know the truth and the truth set you free…..so those words are Jesus words.
I was for past 30 years JW,I do,nt have negativ thinking about those people who failed in the theological modern autocrative slawery of JW Brooklyn Organisation based on organisational laws of 2 century so call christian churches for example thelogians Ignathius or Eusebius,only JW laws are twisted in the modern style,but anyway this is man made Gospel not JESUS CHRIST
only Gods mercy can remove child of GOD from this organisation,I am talking about children of GOD who belongs to spiritual church in the heaven, who are obey only one Teacher JEHOWA(JESUS) Holy Word Bible,and are born again John 3;3
I do,nt count according to the HOLY WORD BIBLE that anybody who left JW have freedom!,what kind of freedom!?,HOLY BIBLE teach that all who are not born again from the Holy Spirit GODS WORD Bible written to HIS CHILDREN,are going day by day to the eternal damnation (death)today do,nt exist no more church or organisations who can save own members! JW AND ALL CHURCHES BELONG TODAY TO A SATAN 2 THESSALONIANS 2;3-11. One example is NWT Bible of JW,THIS Bible is completly false and contradict with original hebrew language and greek (kojne)ancient greek New Testament.This Bible is JW Brooklyn bible, but for sure this is most misleading book leading people to false Gospel.
homosexuality is a sin against own body Romans 1;22-28 you can read more about this subject in Deutoronomy,but each one of us is like sinful filty rugs before God,and each one of us have to have mercy and love to a human being,each one of us have to cry for mercy and forgiveness to GODS ALMIGHTY because of genetical sin from Adam,please?before you put somebody down,at first think about yourself!look in your mirror!?what kind of freedom you got regardless who are you JW,Open mind,catolic or Mormon.
just put your own mind,heart,and humble beseech for GODS MERCY BEFORE IS NOT TO LATE!!! READ PSALM 51;10,11,12,17 broken spirit,a broken and contrite heart,O God,thou will not despise .nobody can help us to be saved nobody!!!Only JESUS SHED HIS BLOOD FOR HIS CHOSEN CHILDREN
all Preachers and Governing Body of JW should pray and beseech for yourself and own salvation,but for sure not lead people to salvation because BROOKLYN IS NOT PLACE OF SALVATION OR GODS SPIRIT PLACE.They lead JW to a damnation (death,)man made Gospel do,nt save nobody!nobody!Maybe only few JESUS WILL SAVE FROM JW PEOPLE,BUT THIS IS ALMIGHTY GODS PERFECT PLAN AND ABSOLUTE POWER OF THE HOLY SPIRIT SOLVE A PROBLEMS OF HIS CHILDREN ON THE EARTH, IZAIAH 9;6-7

]]> By: passerby http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/08/how-i-became-an-individual/comment-page-1#comment-1460 passerby Sun, 06 Jun 2010 16:09:35 +0000 http://exjw.wordpress.com/?p=294#comment-1460 it's normal to think deeply on certain situations however in this temporary life there are only two certain things,, the good and the bad. i am not trying to sAY you lack a bit of knowledge over the truth but i just want to share you something i heard this last assembly... nobody is forcing you,,.."you have been warned" your decisions are freely chosen..that's up to you.. it’s normal to think deeply on certain situations however in this temporary life there are only two certain things,, the good and the bad. i am not trying to sAY you lack a bit of knowledge over the truth but i just want to share you something i heard this last assembly… nobody is forcing you,,..”you have been warned” your decisions are freely chosen..that’s up to you..

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