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	<title>Comments on: The Year 1914 and the &#8220;Seven Gentile Times&#8221;</title>
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		<title>By: Marcos</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/07/the-year-1914-and-the-seven-gentile-times/comment-page-1#comment-1456</link>
		<dc:creator>Marcos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 00:00:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all site
The date of 1914, is not biblical, is an invention of the Body Governante.
Its doctrines are changed frequentementes.

confer ( 1João 4:1; 1Tess.5:21 ).

Brasil / São Paulo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all site<br />
The date of 1914, is not biblical, is an invention of the Body Governante.<br />
Its doctrines are changed frequentementes.</p>
<p>confer ( 1João 4:1; 1Tess.5:21 ).</p>
<p>Brasil / São Paulo</p>
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		<title>By: freziggity yo</title>
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		<dc:creator>freziggity yo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2009 00:22:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I do not think I need to recap on how the watch tower society comes to their interpretation of the 7 times, So this part will be brief.

12 months of 30 days times 7 = 2520 days, from 607 B.C.E. 2520 years into the future is the year 1914 C.E. However,every 7 years is a sabbath year, in which an extra month is added to the Jewish lunar calendar, to keep up with the cycling of the moon, which is very important in Jewish life. So, add an extra month of 30 days to 2520 and you get 2550. The year of 1944 the year of the ending of world war 2, and shortly thereafter, the reestablishment of the Jews in the Land of Cannan, or modern day Palestine. I'm afraid to suggest that there is a way to ascertain the times and seasons that God has reserved for himself alone, as Jesus Christ himself admitted. What perplexes me most of all is how the Society claims to come to that conclusion, by interpreting scriptures that were written before the earthly life of Jesus of Nazereth. This suggests that Charles Taze Russell could see and interpret the word of God even better than Christ ,the Son of God. Unless, it's suggesting that Jesus was  withholding information, or lying to the disciples when they questioned him. So this question is fairly simple. But there are others. How could the watchtower society calculate the seven times and accidentally omitt the 30 days of the extra month that is added every seven years to complete a cycle of times?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I do not think I need to recap on how the watch tower society comes to their interpretation of the 7 times, So this part will be brief.</p>
<p>12 months of 30 days times 7 = 2520 days, from 607 B.C.E. 2520 years into the future is the year 1914 C.E. However,every 7 years is a sabbath year, in which an extra month is added to the Jewish lunar calendar, to keep up with the cycling of the moon, which is very important in Jewish life. So, add an extra month of 30 days to 2520 and you get 2550. The year of 1944 the year of the ending of world war 2, and shortly thereafter, the reestablishment of the Jews in the Land of Cannan, or modern day Palestine. I&#8217;m afraid to suggest that there is a way to ascertain the times and seasons that God has reserved for himself alone, as Jesus Christ himself admitted. What perplexes me most of all is how the Society claims to come to that conclusion, by interpreting scriptures that were written before the earthly life of Jesus of Nazereth. This suggests that Charles Taze Russell could see and interpret the word of God even better than Christ ,the Son of God. Unless, it&#8217;s suggesting that Jesus was  withholding information, or lying to the disciples when they questioned him. So this question is fairly simple. But there are others. How could the watchtower society calculate the seven times and accidentally omitt the 30 days of the extra month that is added every seven years to complete a cycle of times?</p>
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		<title>By: George Bravakis</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/07/the-year-1914-and-the-seven-gentile-times/comment-page-1#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator>George Bravakis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 24 Jul 2008 18:18:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The way the Society got to the 607 BC date was to count 70 years back form 537 BC thinking the 70 years of desolations eneded which is entirely incorrect.  Cyrus allowed the Jews to return to rebuild the temple but only two tribes returned (see Ezra).  Throughout Isaiah, Jeremiah etc....God made it clear that both the house of Judah and Jacob would return and this did not occur until the temple was rebuilt and more importantly....rededicated and this dedication did not occur until 513 BC.  The Jews of the 2nd temple mirrored what Solomon did at the first temple....He waited 11 months after it was built until the year of Jubilee in 1003 BC.  490 years later (10 jubilees) takes you to 513 BC which can be proven through Josephus and the Priest Record.   Josephus calculates the 70 years of desolation from 583 BC (when Nebuchadnezzar took the last Jewish captives to Babylon which is detailed in Jeremiah) to the dedication at Jubilee 513 BC.   This proves the Society's error for the 607 BC date.  Nebuchadnezzar was not even in power in 607 BC.  Their 2520 year date is formulated on the felled tree in Nebuchadnezzar's dream.  They (the society) equate the tree with the Davidic line of kings which is totally ignorant.  The tree represents world rule.  How does one know this?  Simple, Daniel interprets the dream for the king and tells him he is the tree.  When did God ever give the Jewish kings starting with Saul world rule?  The answer is never hence the Society is just another cult ruining the lives of many people.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The way the Society got to the 607 BC date was to count 70 years back form 537 BC thinking the 70 years of desolations eneded which is entirely incorrect.  Cyrus allowed the Jews to return to rebuild the temple but only two tribes returned (see Ezra).  Throughout Isaiah, Jeremiah etc&#8230;.God made it clear that both the house of Judah and Jacob would return and this did not occur until the temple was rebuilt and more importantly&#8230;.rededicated and this dedication did not occur until 513 BC.  The Jews of the 2nd temple mirrored what Solomon did at the first temple&#8230;.He waited 11 months after it was built until the year of Jubilee in 1003 BC.  490 years later (10 jubilees) takes you to 513 BC which can be proven through Josephus and the Priest Record.   Josephus calculates the 70 years of desolation from 583 BC (when Nebuchadnezzar took the last Jewish captives to Babylon which is detailed in Jeremiah) to the dedication at Jubilee 513 BC.   This proves the Society&#8217;s error for the 607 BC date.  Nebuchadnezzar was not even in power in 607 BC.  Their 2520 year date is formulated on the felled tree in Nebuchadnezzar&#8217;s dream.  They (the society) equate the tree with the Davidic line of kings which is totally ignorant.  The tree represents world rule.  How does one know this?  Simple, Daniel interprets the dream for the king and tells him he is the tree.  When did God ever give the Jewish kings starting with Saul world rule?  The answer is never hence the Society is just another cult ruining the lives of many people.</p>
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		<title>By: Kurt Bethel</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kurt Bethel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Jul 2008 04:27:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Originally it was Charles Taze Russell, an apostate Adventist who formed his own group of "Bible Students", who calculated that Jesus came back invisibly and skulked around for 40 years of harvest. This concluded in 1914. In one of his study books, The Time is at Hand, he calculated the 1914 date by measurements of pyramid inches and detailed the method in that book. For years he insisted in the Watchtower that 1914 would mark the "conclusion of the system of things" with the churches and governments being destroyed and swept away by Armageddon. It was a couple of decades after this failed prognostication that Watchtower writers contrived the explanation that Jesus came invisibly in 1914, and Daniel predicted that date. They had 1914 as a hard date, so they had to work backwards and the best they could do was make the 607 date fit 1914 and not fit any facts or evidence. Had they been a bit more creative, like perhaps have the prophecy clock suspend during Jesus' life from age 12 to the crucifiction, uh, I mean impalement, it could close up the gap and match the actual destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BCE.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Originally it was Charles Taze Russell, an apostate Adventist who formed his own group of &#8220;Bible Students&#8221;, who calculated that Jesus came back invisibly and skulked around for 40 years of harvest. This concluded in 1914. In one of his study books, The Time is at Hand, he calculated the 1914 date by measurements of pyramid inches and detailed the method in that book. For years he insisted in the Watchtower that 1914 would mark the &#8220;conclusion of the system of things&#8221; with the churches and governments being destroyed and swept away by Armageddon. It was a couple of decades after this failed prognostication that Watchtower writers contrived the explanation that Jesus came invisibly in 1914, and Daniel predicted that date. They had 1914 as a hard date, so they had to work backwards and the best they could do was make the 607 date fit 1914 and not fit any facts or evidence. Had they been a bit more creative, like perhaps have the prophecy clock suspend during Jesus&#8217; life from age 12 to the crucifiction, uh, I mean impalement, it could close up the gap and match the actual destruction of Jerusalem in 586 BCE.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike.e</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike.e</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Jul 2008 22:53:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm with you on this one.  The whole 1914 thing is completely without merit.  The problem is, its one of the core doctrines of the Watchtower.  And if the Watchtower were to change this one, the implications would be far more serious than any other Watchtower doctrinal change in its history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m with you on this one.  The whole 1914 thing is completely without merit.  The problem is, its one of the core doctrines of the Watchtower.  And if the Watchtower were to change this one, the implications would be far more serious than any other Watchtower doctrinal change in its history.</p>
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		<title>By: Wayne Rogers</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/07/the-year-1914-and-the-seven-gentile-times/comment-page-1#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>Wayne Rogers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Jul 2008 04:21:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is the issue that opened my eyes. I started doing more research into the 1914/607 date....with the intention of affirming that the WTS had the correct date. I was in for shocking disillusionment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is the issue that opened my eyes. I started doing more research into the 1914/607 date&#8230;.with the intention of affirming that the WTS had the correct date. I was in for shocking disillusionment.</p>
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		<title>By: Danny Haszard</title>
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		<dc:creator>Danny Haszard</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 06:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1874,1914,1918,1925,1975.....

Hmmmm.ALL the Watchtower dates are LIES!
The REAL DEAL
Jehovah's Witnesses Millerite/Adventist sect spin-off American war of 1812 army captain William Miller is ground zero for Jehovah's Witnesses.
There is nothing that made me gasp in horror of all WT/JW falsehoods more then this finding that it all came from the Millerite movement.

Yes,the "great disappointment"of Oct 22 1844 has never died out... it lives on in the Seventh day Adventist (who admit it) and the Jehovah's Witnesses who deny it. The central CORE doctrine of the Watchtower,yes the reason the Watchtower came into existence was to declare Jesus second coming in 1914.When the prophecy (derived from William Miller of 1842) failed they said that he came "invisibly".

Ergo,no 1914 then there can be no 1918 inspection and sealing of the 'anointed' so the entire Watchtower Bible and Tract Society doctrinal superstructure comes crashing down like a house of cards

WILLIAM MILLER http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/132920/1.ashx
THE BEGINNING of it ALL

Jesus second coming aka 'return to power' aka 'establishment of his heavenly kingdom' aka 'invisible return to power' all mean the same thing.There are thousands and thousands of pages of evidence that this false 1914 date is the CORE CREED of the Watchtower.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1874,1914,1918,1925,1975&#8230;..</p>
<p>Hmmmm.ALL the Watchtower dates are LIES!<br />
The REAL DEAL<br />
Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses Millerite/Adventist sect spin-off American war of 1812 army captain William Miller is ground zero for Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses.<br />
There is nothing that made me gasp in horror of all WT/JW falsehoods more then this finding that it all came from the Millerite movement.</p>
<p>Yes,the &#8220;great disappointment&#8221;of Oct 22 1844 has never died out&#8230; it lives on in the Seventh day Adventist (who admit it) and the Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses who deny it. The central CORE doctrine of the Watchtower,yes the reason the Watchtower came into existence was to declare Jesus second coming in 1914.When the prophecy (derived from William Miller of 1842) failed they said that he came &#8220;invisibly&#8221;.</p>
<p>Ergo,no 1914 then there can be no 1918 inspection and sealing of the &#8216;anointed&#8217; so the entire Watchtower Bible and Tract Society doctrinal superstructure comes crashing down like a house of cards</p>
<p>WILLIAM MILLER <a href="http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/132920/1.ashx" rel="nofollow">http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/132920/1.ashx</a><br />
THE BEGINNING of it ALL</p>
<p>Jesus second coming aka &#8216;return to power&#8217; aka &#8216;establishment of his heavenly kingdom&#8217; aka &#8216;invisible return to power&#8217; all mean the same thing.There are thousands and thousands of pages of evidence that this false 1914 date is the CORE CREED of the Watchtower.</p>
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		<title>By: Lance</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lance</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Jul 2008 03:49:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>1914 is what started me out of the Watchtower trap also. I just wish more JWs would think about how meaningless the 1914 prophecy is and how much of their theology is wrapped up in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>1914 is what started me out of the Watchtower trap also. I just wish more JWs would think about how meaningless the 1914 prophecy is and how much of their theology is wrapped up in it.</p>
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