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		<title>By: Skeptic</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/06/why-atheism/comment-page-1#comment-177</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptic</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:24:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are my new favorite blogger. Eloquent and to the point. I love reading you posts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are my new favorite blogger. Eloquent and to the point. I love reading you posts.</p>
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		<title>By: Samuel Skinner</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/06/why-atheism/comment-page-1#comment-178</link>
		<dc:creator>Samuel Skinner</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll help Moxie out.

Science can prove or disprove God- if he exiss he falls under science. If he acts in our universe he falls under science. In a universe with God(s), theology would be a hard science- psychology/archeology/testing.

Water is made of hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen was produced by the big bang and oxygen was formed in stars.

See the current theories of the universe and the logical error known as "fallacy of ignorance".

Life exists because it is possible. Life came from nonlife- see chemistry. When we die we break down into our consituent parts as bacteria break us apart. These are all science questions.

I have no faith. The reason you think I do is you assume the supernatural- something impossible by definition.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll help Moxie out.</p>
<p>Science can prove or disprove God- if he exiss he falls under science. If he acts in our universe he falls under science. In a universe with God(s), theology would be a hard science- psychology/archeology/testing.</p>
<p>Water is made of hydrogen and oxygen. Hydrogen was produced by the big bang and oxygen was formed in stars.</p>
<p>See the current theories of the universe and the logical error known as &#8220;fallacy of ignorance&#8221;.</p>
<p>Life exists because it is possible. Life came from nonlife- see chemistry. When we die we break down into our consituent parts as bacteria break us apart. These are all science questions.</p>
<p>I have no faith. The reason you think I do is you assume the supernatural- something impossible by definition.</p>
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		<title>By: Moxie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Moxie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:26:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Clark Bunch:

You ask a great question that many have asked before you. If you simplify it, you're asking what was the cause of life, or where did the ingredients come from that formed life?

Religion answers that by saying that God was that first cause. The problem and dare I say fallacy in that argument is that by its very nature it contradicts itself. It argues that there can be no creation without a creator. But by the same logic God would also have had a first-cause or creator; you see the problem.

But that is where religion says, 'No... God was always there'. So our kind of life had to have a cause, but God's didn't? The God theory is a contradiction in reasoning, described as infinite regression, yet religion stands by its fallacious and baseless claim.

Even though we don't currently have the science to fully understand how this all came about, I prefer and am content to wait instead of giving credit to a god or idea that has no evidence of existing other than in our own minds.

There was a time we thought the world was flat and that ships would sail over the edge if they ventured too far. Now we know that was wrong... We look back and laugh at how silly our ideas were. Just consider the possibility that years, decades or centuries from now we will look back and feel the same way about our belief in a god.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Clark Bunch:</p>
<p>You ask a great question that many have asked before you. If you simplify it, you&#8217;re asking what was the cause of life, or where did the ingredients come from that formed life?</p>
<p>Religion answers that by saying that God was that first cause. The problem and dare I say fallacy in that argument is that by its very nature it contradicts itself. It argues that there can be no creation without a creator. But by the same logic God would also have had a first-cause or creator; you see the problem.</p>
<p>But that is where religion says, &#8216;No&#8230; God was always there&#8217;. So our kind of life had to have a cause, but God&#8217;s didn&#8217;t? The God theory is a contradiction in reasoning, described as infinite regression, yet religion stands by its fallacious and baseless claim.</p>
<p>Even though we don&#8217;t currently have the science to fully understand how this all came about, I prefer and am content to wait instead of giving credit to a god or idea that has no evidence of existing other than in our own minds.</p>
<p>There was a time we thought the world was flat and that ships would sail over the edge if they ventured too far. Now we know that was wrong&#8230; We look back and laugh at how silly our ideas were. Just consider the possibility that years, decades or centuries from now we will look back and feel the same way about our belief in a god.</p>
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		<title>By: leftcoastlibrul</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/06/why-atheism/comment-page-1#comment-181</link>
		<dc:creator>leftcoastlibrul</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:26:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Moxie~
Beautiful post. We may not have all the answers, but being willing to say "I don't know" drives us to find them.

Regards,
D.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Moxie~<br />
Beautiful post. We may not have all the answers, but being willing to say &#8220;I don&#8217;t know&#8221; drives us to find them.</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
D.</p>
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		<title>By: Shawn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Shawn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 04:14:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Great post &lt;i&gt;thanks&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post <i>thanks</i></p>
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		<title>By: Clark Bunch</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/06/why-atheism/comment-page-1#comment-179</link>
		<dc:creator>Clark Bunch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 03:58:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't expect to "win," but somehow I still feel compelled to play the game.

Science can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God.  Science analyzes and tests things found in nature, but assuming God exists (as I do) he exists outside of nature, i.e. the natural world he created.  I'll just give you evolution; let's say it's real and accounts for biological diversity on the earth.  You mentioned how logical that is in a world filled with water.  Where did the water come from?  I know, I know.  Okay, let's go all the way back to the big bang that flung material out in every direction that would become our universe.  Where did the material come from that exploded?  I don't see how billions and billions of years accounts for how something came from nothing; but could God create something something from nothing?  That's a supernatural act, so yes, sure he could.

Science can answer many quesitons about the natural world.  But why life exists, where did we come from, what happens after life?  These are supernatural questions.  As long as you do not conclusivly have the answers, then you must aknowledge the possibility for God still exists.  It also takes faith to believe there is no God and cannot be one, since with science you can't prove he does not.  Faith is required in eaither case.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t expect to &#8220;win,&#8221; but somehow I still feel compelled to play the game.</p>
<p>Science can neither prove nor disprove the existence of God.  Science analyzes and tests things found in nature, but assuming God exists (as I do) he exists outside of nature, i.e. the natural world he created.  I&#8217;ll just give you evolution; let&#8217;s say it&#8217;s real and accounts for biological diversity on the earth.  You mentioned how logical that is in a world filled with water.  Where did the water come from?  I know, I know.  Okay, let&#8217;s go all the way back to the big bang that flung material out in every direction that would become our universe.  Where did the material come from that exploded?  I don&#8217;t see how billions and billions of years accounts for how something came from nothing; but could God create something something from nothing?  That&#8217;s a supernatural act, so yes, sure he could.</p>
<p>Science can answer many quesitons about the natural world.  But why life exists, where did we come from, what happens after life?  These are supernatural questions.  As long as you do not conclusivly have the answers, then you must aknowledge the possibility for God still exists.  It also takes faith to believe there is no God and cannot be one, since with science you can&#8217;t prove he does not.  Faith is required in eaither case.</p>
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