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	<title>Comments on: Why Can&#8217;t Ex Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses Just Move On?</title>
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	<description>Life &#38; healing after leaving the Jehovah's Witnesses...</description>
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		<title>By: tasha</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/05/why-cant-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-just-move-on/comment-page-1#comment-1797</link>
		<dc:creator>tasha</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Nov 2011 22:57:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i was disfellowshipped a number of years back. i got pulled in to the world so to speak (ex wittnesses will know what i mean) and sinned. i came back and confessed all. they said i was not reptant and so i was disfellowshipped. it took a while to heal from the hurt and injustice of it. or at least get over my bitterness at the elders that did it. but my pastor says that they did not know that i was truly repantant. they do not have the holy spirit&#62; (in fact most elders in the congregations today are not apart of the heavenly class, they do not recieve the babtisim of the holy spirit because they go to live on a paradise earth so many are taught to believe) Jesus mentioned that we need the comphoter, the holy spirit in order to be saved. this i believe to be a fact. as to how it all fits into a tinity i am still waiting on the lord to reveal this information to me. i do not celebrate christmas, instead i ceebrate channukah as jesus did. he was after all : a jew. i do celebrate my birthday but not easter. easter is wrong and pagan. jehovahs wittnesses are one of those religons that look like god but are not. they have many truths but many lies in the mix and it is only the power of the holy spirit that will ferrit out truth from lies. i know god will continue to teach me these things because he is the author of truth and those who worship him must worship him with spirit and truth. and his spirit is the spirit of truth. i understand it takes tim eto renew the mind. but gods word washes. and jesus is gods word. there are somedays taht are rough and some days that are crystal clear but god will get me to where i am going. he who started the work in you will be faithful to complete it. he is putting my life togeather and the end result will be beautiful. i notice many seem to be upset over how they are treated but i do not see anything about doctrine and i am wondering why. because that is the issue that should e viewed not just hurts or unforgiveness over bad situations. it is spirit and truth that are improtant so that people can serve god with all of their hearts. if people have anything on this issue i would like to read what god has revealed to them. when god gives you truth it sets you free and he who the son sets free is free indeed. i am intrested in having all of the teachings that are not true out. for those leaving, be patient with the lord. it took time to make you a jehovahs wittness and it will take time to debug you. lol god will not abandon you. draw close to him and he will draw close to you. seek , knock and he will open the door cause he promises that  if you ask for a fish (so to speak) that he will not give you a snake. seek the holy spirit. seek the babtisim and let god take over to renew your mind. not that it happens all in an instant, i am still being washed and renewed. then find a good church that flows in the nine gifts of the spriit as the book of acts talk about. pray and god will lead you there. thanks for reading. t.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i was disfellowshipped a number of years back. i got pulled in to the world so to speak (ex wittnesses will know what i mean) and sinned. i came back and confessed all. they said i was not reptant and so i was disfellowshipped. it took a while to heal from the hurt and injustice of it. or at least get over my bitterness at the elders that did it. but my pastor says that they did not know that i was truly repantant. they do not have the holy spirit&gt; (in fact most elders in the congregations today are not apart of the heavenly class, they do not recieve the babtisim of the holy spirit because they go to live on a paradise earth so many are taught to believe) Jesus mentioned that we need the comphoter, the holy spirit in order to be saved. this i believe to be a fact. as to how it all fits into a tinity i am still waiting on the lord to reveal this information to me. i do not celebrate christmas, instead i ceebrate channukah as jesus did. he was after all : a jew. i do celebrate my birthday but not easter. easter is wrong and pagan. jehovahs wittnesses are one of those religons that look like god but are not. they have many truths but many lies in the mix and it is only the power of the holy spirit that will ferrit out truth from lies. i know god will continue to teach me these things because he is the author of truth and those who worship him must worship him with spirit and truth. and his spirit is the spirit of truth. i understand it takes tim eto renew the mind. but gods word washes. and jesus is gods word. there are somedays taht are rough and some days that are crystal clear but god will get me to where i am going. he who started the work in you will be faithful to complete it. he is putting my life togeather and the end result will be beautiful. i notice many seem to be upset over how they are treated but i do not see anything about doctrine and i am wondering why. because that is the issue that should e viewed not just hurts or unforgiveness over bad situations. it is spirit and truth that are improtant so that people can serve god with all of their hearts. if people have anything on this issue i would like to read what god has revealed to them. when god gives you truth it sets you free and he who the son sets free is free indeed. i am intrested in having all of the teachings that are not true out. for those leaving, be patient with the lord. it took time to make you a jehovahs wittness and it will take time to debug you. lol god will not abandon you. draw close to him and he will draw close to you. seek , knock and he will open the door cause he promises that  if you ask for a fish (so to speak) that he will not give you a snake. seek the holy spirit. seek the babtisim and let god take over to renew your mind. not that it happens all in an instant, i am still being washed and renewed. then find a good church that flows in the nine gifts of the spriit as the book of acts talk about. pray and god will lead you there. thanks for reading. t.</p>
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		<title>By: Joel</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/05/why-cant-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-just-move-on/comment-page-1#comment-1752</link>
		<dc:creator>Joel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 10:19:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In this article you mention Jehovah's Witnesses are taught to hate those who leave. [ People leave for many reasons. ] David of the Bible had to leave King Saul. Who would want to be pinned to a wall with a spear? At one count David was one of six hundred living in caves. Elijah thought he was the only true follower left, however Jehovah stated not so, there are eight thousand who have not bent the knee to Baal. When Jesus comes with all his Angels the sheep and goats will be identified. At present they are all in various places. In the Revelation God tells his people to get out of false religion. So Jehovah sees the heart, his people caught up in false religion. They need to get out, God is calling them out. Jesus our Lord was instructed by his Father to overcome hatred. Do you remember in the sermon on the mount Jesus instructed his followers. You have heard it said to hate your enemies, I say to you love your enemies, do good to those who hate you........ your Heavenly Father gives rain to the good and the evil.......prove yourselves sons of your Father. In other words follow your Fathers example. How can you do good to those who hate you if they will not talk to you? How can you love your enemies  and not talk to them? The Christian way is to hate badness not the person. King Saul made David leave, David never left Jehovah. Following Jesus instruction is the way to wisdom, and not to hate those who show hatred towards you. They need time to understand. The maturity of a religion is seen by how they apply Jesus instruction. It appears some religions have a mind of their own, not the mind of Christ.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In this article you mention Jehovah&#8217;s Witnesses are taught to hate those who leave. [ People leave for many reasons. ] David of the Bible had to leave King Saul. Who would want to be pinned to a wall with a spear? At one count David was one of six hundred living in caves. Elijah thought he was the only true follower left, however Jehovah stated not so, there are eight thousand who have not bent the knee to Baal. When Jesus comes with all his Angels the sheep and goats will be identified. At present they are all in various places. In the Revelation God tells his people to get out of false religion. So Jehovah sees the heart, his people caught up in false religion. They need to get out, God is calling them out. Jesus our Lord was instructed by his Father to overcome hatred. Do you remember in the sermon on the mount Jesus instructed his followers. You have heard it said to hate your enemies, I say to you love your enemies, do good to those who hate you&#8230;&#8230;.. your Heavenly Father gives rain to the good and the evil&#8230;&#8230;.prove yourselves sons of your Father. In other words follow your Fathers example. How can you do good to those who hate you if they will not talk to you? How can you love your enemies  and not talk to them? The Christian way is to hate badness not the person. King Saul made David leave, David never left Jehovah. Following Jesus instruction is the way to wisdom, and not to hate those who show hatred towards you. They need time to understand. The maturity of a religion is seen by how they apply Jesus instruction. It appears some religions have a mind of their own, not the mind of Christ.</p>
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		<title>By: Carol</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/05/why-cant-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-just-move-on/comment-page-1#comment-1632</link>
		<dc:creator>Carol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Jan 2011 01:46:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>These people are hurtful and self-righteous.I know all about it.Their teachings may be from the Bible, but they are not nice to eachother. And especially not nice to people who aren't in their Religion. i thought being a Christian was about being KIND to people, and understanding that we are not perfect. We can try to follow what God wants us to do, but even the Bible says we'll fall from time to time.Why do they not understand this?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>These people are hurtful and self-righteous.I know all about it.Their teachings may be from the Bible, but they are not nice to eachother. And especially not nice to people who aren&#8217;t in their Religion. i thought being a Christian was about being KIND to people, and understanding that we are not perfect. We can try to follow what God wants us to do, but even the Bible says we&#8217;ll fall from time to time.Why do they not understand this?</p>
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		<title>By: ck</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/05/why-cant-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-just-move-on/comment-page-1#comment-1630</link>
		<dc:creator>ck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2011 05:21:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was born to and raised in a jw family. My aunt's husband (a former and current elder) physically and emotionally abused her and physically, emotionally, and sexually abused all three kids. My aunt was disfellowshiped for divorcing him, and yet even with all of his obvious faults he is still an elder. My aunt worked for over six years to be reinstated. We also tried to have them investigate why she was disfellowshiped (by a man suspected of sexually abusing at least one of my cousins and his own child) and why her now ex-husband was given a pass... the "investigation" was mysteriously quashed. My cousins are told that they are welcome in the religion, but no one will speak to or acknowledge them once they realize that they bore witness against an elder - even if it was their abusive father.
 After deciding that a) I had very serious problems with how the religion is run b) I can not abide by people who are misogynistic or prejudiced and c) I no longer believed in god, I left the religion. That was ten years ago, but had I been able (I was barely 18), I would have left much sooner. When I was a young teenager I decided not to get baptised and I am so thankful for that. 
My father and I rarely speak because most of our conversations end in him screaming about the end of the world and how I won't be going to paradise and me either hanging up or leaving. My mother refuses to have any conversation that does not end in, "you should pray to jehovah," or, "armageddon is coming!" But, I count myself as lucky because my family does speak to me and they did come to my wedding even though I married outside of the religion. Although I credit that to them having seen that jw elders can and do make serious mistakes, I have to wonder how they are still happy in the religion after seeing how they treated my aunt and her kids.
When I look back over my childhood, I am amazed at all I missed out on. I'm not just talking about dances or dating, but life experiences and learning that I missed out on and had to figure out later. I mourn for my family who is still in it and I genuinely hope that they see the light.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was born to and raised in a jw family. My aunt&#8217;s husband (a former and current elder) physically and emotionally abused her and physically, emotionally, and sexually abused all three kids. My aunt was disfellowshiped for divorcing him, and yet even with all of his obvious faults he is still an elder. My aunt worked for over six years to be reinstated. We also tried to have them investigate why she was disfellowshiped (by a man suspected of sexually abusing at least one of my cousins and his own child) and why her now ex-husband was given a pass&#8230; the &#8220;investigation&#8221; was mysteriously quashed. My cousins are told that they are welcome in the religion, but no one will speak to or acknowledge them once they realize that they bore witness against an elder - even if it was their abusive father.<br />
 After deciding that a) I had very serious problems with how the religion is run b) I can not abide by people who are misogynistic or prejudiced and c) I no longer believed in god, I left the religion. That was ten years ago, but had I been able (I was barely 18), I would have left much sooner. When I was a young teenager I decided not to get baptised and I am so thankful for that.<br />
My father and I rarely speak because most of our conversations end in him screaming about the end of the world and how I won&#8217;t be going to paradise and me either hanging up or leaving. My mother refuses to have any conversation that does not end in, &#8220;you should pray to jehovah,&#8221; or, &#8220;armageddon is coming!&#8221; But, I count myself as lucky because my family does speak to me and they did come to my wedding even though I married outside of the religion. Although I credit that to them having seen that jw elders can and do make serious mistakes, I have to wonder how they are still happy in the religion after seeing how they treated my aunt and her kids.<br />
When I look back over my childhood, I am amazed at all I missed out on. I&#8217;m not just talking about dances or dating, but life experiences and learning that I missed out on and had to figure out later. I mourn for my family who is still in it and I genuinely hope that they see the light.</p>
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		<title>By: MC</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/05/why-cant-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-just-move-on/comment-page-1#comment-1490</link>
		<dc:creator>MC</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jul 2010 22:22:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So many of there teachings are flawed. They tell you in paradise you will not remember anything from this world and then they tell you about how you will be able to discuss your experiences from this life in paradise. My mom brought us into this religion. It tore my family apart. My dad hated it and my brother rejected it when he moved out. I've dealt with self destructive behaviors and cannot wait to move on. I am going to college, much to my mother's despair. I feel bad for her, she should be so proud of me and instead I'll be a disappointment...a disgrace. That will be hard to "just move on" from.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So many of there teachings are flawed. They tell you in paradise you will not remember anything from this world and then they tell you about how you will be able to discuss your experiences from this life in paradise. My mom brought us into this religion. It tore my family apart. My dad hated it and my brother rejected it when he moved out. I&#8217;ve dealt with self destructive behaviors and cannot wait to move on. I am going to college, much to my mother&#8217;s despair. I feel bad for her, she should be so proud of me and instead I&#8217;ll be a disappointment&#8230;a disgrace. That will be hard to &#8220;just move on&#8221; from.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael Tillander</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/05/why-cant-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-just-move-on/comment-page-1#comment-1307</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael Tillander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jan 2010 06:48:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was raised as a JW and baptised at nine. Served as a congregation servant and elder while participating in circuit and district programs.  After my wife had an affair with another JW member I ran with her and my family to another state hoping the change would help save my marriage.  When the situation was investigated critical information was covered up because of friendship and a desire to keep things quit.  After my move to another congregation (still drinking the koolaid)it became clear my marriage was over. I resigned from my congregation responsibilities and focused on my three sons and job.  The situation became so tense that it became necessary to move out of the house and within six months I obtained custody of the children and left the religeon.  Subsequently I met a wonderful women of another faith and we got married at her church.  Thank God the boys were not baptised (something inside of me said wait until they were at least 18)....when my mother got wind of the upcoming marriage she informed the congregation that I left and DF proceedings were started on the basis of apostasy.  Since leaving all that I knew for over 35 years the transition was hard but my wife and her friends plus new friends have filled the void. My anger over wasted time...lost loves because they were not in "The Truth" coupled with the lies and deception that became more clear as time passed on made me feel stupid and duped. We are over that 'stuff' but from time to time that old bird wants to make a nest in my head. I consider myself a Christian and base my life on helping others when I am able and focus on the Lord's Prayer to forgive as I would be forgiven.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was raised as a JW and baptised at nine. Served as a congregation servant and elder while participating in circuit and district programs.  After my wife had an affair with another JW member I ran with her and my family to another state hoping the change would help save my marriage.  When the situation was investigated critical information was covered up because of friendship and a desire to keep things quit.  After my move to another congregation (still drinking the koolaid)it became clear my marriage was over. I resigned from my congregation responsibilities and focused on my three sons and job.  The situation became so tense that it became necessary to move out of the house and within six months I obtained custody of the children and left the religeon.  Subsequently I met a wonderful women of another faith and we got married at her church.  Thank God the boys were not baptised (something inside of me said wait until they were at least 18)&#8230;.when my mother got wind of the upcoming marriage she informed the congregation that I left and DF proceedings were started on the basis of apostasy.  Since leaving all that I knew for over 35 years the transition was hard but my wife and her friends plus new friends have filled the void. My anger over wasted time&#8230;lost loves because they were not in &#8220;The Truth&#8221; coupled with the lies and deception that became more clear as time passed on made me feel stupid and duped. We are over that &#8217;stuff&#8217; but from time to time that old bird wants to make a nest in my head. I consider myself a Christian and base my life on helping others when I am able and focus on the Lord&#8217;s Prayer to forgive as I would be forgiven.</p>
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		<title>By: Geowyn</title>
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		<dc:creator>Geowyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Dec 2009 16:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My mother and I were in one congregation and my dear brother was in another, not too far away.  He was single and lived alone, and was made a Ministerial Servant.  He was used by that congregation, he could go whole meetings without anyone speaking to him, but they were quick enough to speak to him when they wanted him to do something for them.
He became very depressed and began to smoke again, both tobacco and cannibis.  He went to the elders and confessed.  They asked him when he was going to stop and he said "I don't know."  There was no offer of any help at all, and he was disfellowshipped.
He is still alone, still depressed and still smoking cannibis.  I do not blame God for this, I blame the WTBS and that congregation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My mother and I were in one congregation and my dear brother was in another, not too far away.  He was single and lived alone, and was made a Ministerial Servant.  He was used by that congregation, he could go whole meetings without anyone speaking to him, but they were quick enough to speak to him when they wanted him to do something for them.<br />
He became very depressed and began to smoke again, both tobacco and cannibis.  He went to the elders and confessed.  They asked him when he was going to stop and he said &#8220;I don&#8217;t know.&#8221;  There was no offer of any help at all, and he was disfellowshipped.<br />
He is still alone, still depressed and still smoking cannibis.  I do not blame God for this, I blame the WTBS and that congregation.</p>
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		<title>By: Tim Poustie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tim Poustie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Oct 2009 05:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  Great site. As a jw-cult family refugee I have lived with almost no family connections for over 25 years. For so long  I thought I was the only isolated ex/anti angry former jw in the world. So many postings here reflect my personal experience. 

The internet is a  wonderful tool....  if it had existed 25 years ago so many of my generation who were DFed would still be alive.  I have seen so many times that the shunning of young  vulnerable people leads to them being turned out on the street, which in turn leads to them embracing the worst sort of friends, hard drugs and short tragic lives.

I now think of it as 'WTBS murder by indoctrination'. 

Tim</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  Great site. As a jw-cult family refugee I have lived with almost no family connections for over 25 years. For so long  I thought I was the only isolated ex/anti angry former jw in the world. So many postings here reflect my personal experience. </p>
<p>The internet is a  wonderful tool&#8230;.  if it had existed 25 years ago so many of my generation who were DFed would still be alive.  I have seen so many times that the shunning of young  vulnerable people leads to them being turned out on the street, which in turn leads to them embracing the worst sort of friends, hard drugs and short tragic lives.</p>
<p>I now think of it as &#8216;WTBS murder by indoctrination&#8217;. </p>
<p>Tim</p>
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		<title>By: jim scott</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/05/why-cant-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-just-move-on/comment-page-1#comment-554</link>
		<dc:creator>jim scott</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 12:53:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i remember reading in the bible that jesus would assosciate with sinners.then the part where the mob was going to stone the prostitute and jesus said "let he who is without sin caste the firststone". that tells me that jesus is about love and forgiveness not turning people away or shunning them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i remember reading in the bible that jesus would assosciate with sinners.then the part where the mob was going to stone the prostitute and jesus said &#8220;let he who is without sin caste the firststone&#8221;. that tells me that jesus is about love and forgiveness not turning people away or shunning them.</p>
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		<title>By: Lynne</title>
		<link>http://www.exjehovahswitness.net/2008/05/why-cant-ex-jehovahs-witnesses-just-move-on/comment-page-1#comment-383</link>
		<dc:creator>Lynne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 Jan 2009 16:33:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one thing that everyone should remember, if you live a good and kind life,treat others how you would like to be treated you do not have to worry about Armageddon.  You will receive salvation in any event.

It is only those people who do not try to live up to these ideals that would have to worry about it and constantly think about it.

Remember, it will come like a thief in the night when no-one is expecting it.  Also, the bible says quite clearly to beware of false prophets.  How many false prophecies have the JWs come up with?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one thing that everyone should remember, if you live a good and kind life,treat others how you would like to be treated you do not have to worry about Armageddon.  You will receive salvation in any event.</p>
<p>It is only those people who do not try to live up to these ideals that would have to worry about it and constantly think about it.</p>
<p>Remember, it will come like a thief in the night when no-one is expecting it.  Also, the bible says quite clearly to beware of false prophets.  How many false prophecies have the JWs come up with?</p>
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